primeval titan edh ban

Close. And that's the difference. Going off what the rules committee said, though, it does make sense. How about every tutor that costs two or less? [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Alex0874 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children). Consecrated Sphinx - (G) (MC) [–]ThatOneGuy1294Daretti and Mizzix because shenanigans 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children), [–]jesusice 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children). Thespian Stage and Dark Depths. It didnt matter if you were 5 colors, you played this card. Grabbing gaea's cradle, nykthos, and deserted temple is big game. You know, the actual broken cards in EDH? Is there some broken combo or deck that used it? [–]Tptn937 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children), [–]thecrimsontim 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children). [–]TheTiniestPirateSheoldred, More Arms to Hug You 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children). [–]FearfulJesuitIntet's Vivid Dreams 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children). [–]BIGBADBRRRAP 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (7 children), "Primeval Titans ban is a joke. Search for the perfect addition to your deck. tempt with discovery - (G) (MC) Heh, I don't really expect to ever have a meaningful discussion on most of reddit, particularly when I disagree with the circlejerk. inkmoth nexus - (G) (MC) And with how prevelent boardwipes are, id say most decks pack good ETBs. Fast combo decks are played pretty much exclusively in competitive EDH, which the rules committee consciously ignores. Rendered by PID 13203 on r2-app-0c614c544dc9e1217 at 2020-12-06 00:46:33.197353+00:00 running a7f2daa country code: US. Also, its highly repeatable. [–]1newworldorderhula hanna 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). Cyclonic rift is a staple that fits in any deck without defining a strategy; any deck could throw it in. This is a green tutor. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 13203 on r2-app-0c614c544dc9e1217 at 2020-12-06 00:46:33.197353+00:00 running a7f2daa country code: US. Realm seekers is literally the next best land searching creature. Primeval Titan: Iconic Masters General This card has restrictions in the following formats: Format: Legality: Modern ... Legal … And, only two of those come close to being game breaking. Creatures are very easy to interact with, but not when the crux of their power is loaded into an ETB trigger. [–]TorkonKaho 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (15 children). Ask your playgroup to let you use it as a house-rule and come back here after 3 months. I wanted to use him to tutor for Serra's Sanctum every game :( Are there any other ETB creatures that let you search for target land and put it in to play that I could play in place of Titan? They banned Primeval Titan because it provides one player with too much of an advantage in a multiplayer format. Nah, I wasn't playing Titania, I was playing Sek'Kuar. Not to mention that genesis wave for 10+ in a deck with only permanents will pretty much be a devestaging, game ending move. Coffers is only really good in a primarily black deck unless you can combo it with uborg. IMO, Consecrated Sphinx is far more powerful, and is even more broken if another play clones it, yet that card is deemed totally fine for the format. [–]AdeptwerdnaGisela's Slayers 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). Deadeye's easy to deal with. But primeval titan, thats stepping over a line. This deck is not Commander / EDH legal. [–]TheInvaderZim"No wonder those Gruul dirtbags follow him." Same woth natural order and worldly tutor. My Titania deck which is already ridiculously strong would be sent over the top with this card. ... T3, forest, Primeval titan (8 mana) T4, whatever you want i've … Commander ( EDH ) is a Magic: The Gathering variant which provides a way of encouraging casual, interactive games with a low barrier to entry while still requiring good deck building skills. 1x Primeval Titan; 1x Prophet of Kruphix; 1x Protean Hulk; 1x Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary; 1x Sundering Titan; 1x Sylvan Primordial; Land (3) 1x Karakas; 1x Library of Alexandria; 1x Tolarian Academy; Commander (1). I mean, it works for french just fine... it's literally a two card difference, three if you want to throw cabal coffers on the list, and all of the lands it would ban are broken in their own right. Like getting four strip mine effects yourself and playing MAD, whoever strips you first gets double stripped. Prime Time gets two. I mean, I came in to edh after the banning, but it seems like green has a healthy selection of viable builds. [–]Zsedcx22Never Forghetti Dralnu Spaghetti, Usurped By Kess Baguetti 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child). Gruesome Encore - (G) (MC) Right now, as far as my own eyes tell me, a very high percentage of games that are at least medium (however you want to define it) power level end in combos. and join one of thousands of communities. When Primetime was legal, I always ran 2-3 effects specifically designed to take someone else's Titan, regardless of what I was running. Suggestions. I simply find Deadeye/whatever to be one of the easier 2-card infinites to stop, as your opponent can't just ignore attempts at disruption by continuing to combo off. [–]onyxleopardOros: WBR ducky -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (6 children). I understand your point...but if you didnt play with him you really dont understand how powerful he really is. Generally speaking, I dedicate 10-12 "staple" slots for my decks, but anything beyond that becomes formulaic. Ugh, if you keep fetching untapped blue sources, you could probably get every land in your deck. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Below is a list of all banned cards in the Commander format. This video is unavailable. CEDH is a state of mind. The things a bomb in Karametra, God forbid you have [[Primeval Bounty]] out. crop rotation grabs one land at little to no ramp. They are essentially auto-includes for decks that support their color identities. Primeval Titan is so good and efficient it warps the color green where playing ramp was the best and only strategy to really play. [–]CommanderSheffield 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (5 children). I mean I would be, but thats unreasonable. Not to mention how busted he is in reanimator decks. It's banned in traditional (multiplayer) commander and allowed in french (duel) commander. [–]vezopubBoom Baby 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children). An argument can be made that it wasn't that strong, that it wasn't changing the format THAT much, but the fact that you would ever play green and every single time people look at your deck without him would scoff at you for building not-ramp, chances are that the card was at least making edh less about ingenuity and creativity because of prime time. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). Which card should not be banned in EDH? Expansion: Iconic Masters. This decision won't be universally popular. I can't speak for anything else, but if it were legal, it would immediately become the most busted card in my [[Riku of Two Reflections]] deck. When he left, ramp was still good, but other things became good too. In green six mana means a lot less. I think Sylvan Primordial should be banned for the same reason, [–]Magnits 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children), [–]MTGCardFetcher 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child), Sylvan Primordial - (G) (MC) It let our angry omnath player win on turn 5. [–]Sovarius 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children). Ramp is still king for non-cutthroat EDH. If you resolve it correctly you search for a land, then your opponents search, then you search for any extra lands - so you'd know beforehand if they're getting Strip Mines. [–]Zer0Theta 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children), I play it in two commander decks. comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (26 children). The most powerful recursive threat in the deck, this powerful Eldrazi spell lets you repeatedly destroy troublesome permanents (mostly lands) and provide pressure without worry of removal. It's more of a Gimmic. Also, two lands makes a lot more difference than one land, and when there are so many more ways to abuse the effect that grabs two lands (repeatedly, I might add), than there is to grab the one that grabs one land and doesn't even give you CA, the two cards aren't even comparable. TLDR; EDH is playgroup-sensitive. If you're running any amount of red, it's easy to give your creatures haste, and so an otherwise bad ass aggro deck becomes an unstoppable force of destruction. [–]schutzer-Gitrog Monster 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (18 children), Sylvan library Made me chuckle when that was spoiled and /r/EDH said, "Meh." How can you consider GSZ a staple and not pod? It's just too much value, and I think Sylvan Primordial should be banned for the same reason. Green Suns zenith [–]Aquafier 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child), I understand why it's banned, but I just want to play [[Sylvan Primordial]], [–]highaerials36ZACAMA 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). [–]Zsedcx22Never Forghetti Dralnu Spaghetti, Usurped By Kess Baguetti 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children), [–]BloodyManticore 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children), Mutually assured destruction, like atomic bomb style, [–]Zephyr256k 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). If I untap with it after casting it in a four player game (the standard for EDH) I've already draw 6 cards and gotten a big flying guy for six mana. Clones, flicker, reanimate. I didn't win, though, as someone combo'd NewZuri and Sage of Hours. I've seen a few and it wasn't always bad, but it was abnormal most of the time. [–]BIGBADBRRRAP 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children). Yea, it's very good, [–]MareykanI don't understand how LED works 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children). I agree with you because my playgroup did a similar switch. [[Deadeye Navigator]] I'll do what I want now. Spoiler Timeline. Pod isn't a staple because it requires a creature in play and a decent curve from one creature to the next. Basically every deck runs [[Sol Ring]] because the ramp is too good to pass up and every black deck should probably run Coffers + Urborg. Everyone takes the offer. Some decks can net 6 mana on turn 2 or 3, and that puts someome far ahead of the rest of the table if they get that going (and green has great creature tutors). Whenever Primeval Titan enters the battlefield or attacks, you may search your library for up to two land cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library. [–]MareykanI don't understand how LED works 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). [–]TheTiniestPirateSheoldred, More Arms to Hug You 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). If you see the rest of the thread, playing Primeval Titan can lead to an on-the-spot win or easily set one up. Wasteland - (G) (MC) I freaking WISH it would get unbanned. It doesn't just grab basics. [–]RetroVirusesGive a man a Vish, he'll eat everything 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child). [–]Japicx 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children). Let's me fetch out all the land filtering I need, and gives me two guaranteed land drops. One requires a blue player with Rite of Replication and a bunch of mana to find out just how bad having it hanging out on board can be. Beast within Additionally, drawing either piece by itself has the added downside of being a complete dud when compared to a forest. Have different definitions of staple, I think if youre running at least 25 creatures with a decent from... 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